tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post1276669645952860375..comments2024-01-18T13:22:27.634-05:00Comments on Afro-Asiatica: An Odyssey in Black: FEAR OF BLACKNESS SERIES: PART I - Guide to the Ethnic Origins of the Infernal Black Saracen - republishedDana W. Marnichehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18404707825803497653noreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-51035587394403450932017-07-24T01:07:22.985-04:002017-07-24T01:07:22.985-04:00Hi Mike - sorry I thought something back to you ab...Hi Mike - sorry I thought something back to you about this. Was busy posting my new blog. It took a long time for me to recover that info that I had posted on Egyptsearch forum, where I used to post long ago for fun. I'm not sure if I will be able to get to it very soon again since I've started on a new project, but maybe you can find info on Egyptsearch about the Canary Island if you google my name and some keywords. did I say Guanches were blacK? I know people on the Canary Islands were Berbers/Tuareg at one point and black people are mentioned there, but I don't remember saying it was the Gaunches. Dana W. Marnichehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18404707825803497653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-25903175060832770472017-06-30T09:31:27.303-04:002017-06-30T09:31:27.303-04:00Good day again Miss Marnichie, I'm not sure if...Good day again Miss Marnichie, I'm not sure if this was addressed in this post or not as I read it some time ago, but may you provide me with a reference supporting your view that the Gaunches of the Canary islands were of dark complexion? Because I've noticed it's not easy to find an objective source on Berber people. I'd greatly appreciate it if you can.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00629671424650592209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-44906284797925875742017-06-24T21:01:25.210-04:002017-06-24T21:01:25.210-04:00Sorry I meant to say daniel Potts book is called A...Sorry I meant to say daniel Potts book is called ARaby the Blest.Dana W. Marnichehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18404707825803497653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-1136044506125632982017-06-24T20:58:31.762-04:002017-06-24T20:58:31.762-04:00Ali I don't have time to keep writing back an...Ali I don't have time to keep writing back and forth about things that are already on my blog. Actually Azd Shanua was a population that branched off from tribes in the Sharawat or Sarat. THose who remained were called Azd Sarat. "Among the Azd tribes, none were as important as the Azd Shanuah, who arrived in Oman from the Yamamah..." from Joseph Kechichian Oman and the World 1995 p. 22. persian rulers recognized them as "...the 'kings of the Arabs'". The Julanda, Daws, and Aulad Shams were some of the tribes of Sanuah. They ruled Oman at the time of your Prophet.<br /> But, the Azd were all from one people "a large group split into several sub-groups, including the Azd As- Sarat, Azd Sanua, and Azd Oman..." Araby the blessed. by Daniel Potts p. 153. Ibn Khallikan wrote in his biographical dictionary ".. people spoke of the Azd of Daba, the Azd of Shanna, the Azd of Oman and the Azd of as-Sarat, though they were all sprung from the same stock. Let no one suppose that the differences indicated by these adiditional names implied a difference of origin." <br /> This is what scholars say and all medieval Arab writers note, but since you are telling me all of these books are "fake", I'm afraid I can't help you anymore. <br /><br />Peace<br /><br /> You should stop asking me questions because I only rely on early sources and not what you want modern populations of Arabia to be. : (Dana W. Marnichehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18404707825803497653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-48327235196261516272017-06-24T11:03:51.971-04:002017-06-24T11:03:51.971-04:00Hi Dana,
I was waiting for your reply
Ali Moses...Hi Dana,<br /><br />I was waiting for your reply <br /><br />Ali MosesMoseshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06828855972713122737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-2069914758464763812017-06-22T21:41:41.758-04:002017-06-22T21:41:41.758-04:00Hi Dana
The emigrating septs of Kahlan can be di...Hi Dana <br /><br />The emigrating septs of Kahlan can be divided into four groups:<br /><br />Azd: Who, under the leadership of ‘Imran bin ‘Amr Muzaiqbâ’, wandered in Yemen, sent pioneers and finally headed northwards. Details of their emigration can be summed up as follows: <br /><br />Tha‘labah bin ‘Amr left his tribe Al-Azd for Hijaz and dwelt between Tha‘labiyah and Dhi Qar. When he gained strength, he headed for Madinah where he stayed. Of his seed are Aws and Khazraj, sons of Haritha bin Tha‘labah. <br /><br />Haritha bin ‘Amr, known as Khuza‘a, wandered with his folks in Hijaz until they came to Mar Az-Zahran. Later, they conquered the Haram, and settled in Makkah after having driven away its people, the tribe of Jurhum.<br /><br />‘Imran bin ‘Amr and his folks went to ‘Oman where they established the tribe of Azd whose children inhabited Tihama and were known as Azd-of-Shanu’a.<br /><br />Jafna bin ‘Amr and his family, headed for Syria where he settled and initiated the kingdom of Ghassan who was so named after a spring of water, in Hijaz, where they stopped on their way to Syria.<br />Lakhm and Judham: Of whom was Nasr bin Rabi‘a, father of Manadhira, Kings of Heerah.<br />Banu Tai': Who also emigrated northwards to settle by the so- called Aja and Salma Mountains which were consequently named as Tai’ Mountains.<br />Kinda: Who dwelt in Bahrain but were expelled to Hadramout and Najd where they instituted a powerful government but not for long , for the whole tribe soon faded away.<br /><br />What're shanu'a tribles ? <br /><br />Thank you<br />Ali Moses<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-9189791705015209422017-06-21T17:09:33.090-04:002017-06-21T17:09:33.090-04:00Hi
I'm waiting for your email
Ali MosesHi<br />I'm waiting for your email<br /><br />Ali MosesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-72126045755765695482017-06-20T22:02:13.939-04:002017-06-20T22:02:13.939-04:00https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoFc62Ghtcc
The d...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoFc62Ghtcc<br /><br />The descendants of the real AfroAsiatics of the Asir do AfroAsiatic things. Like this kind of dance which is thousands of years old. <br /><br />What does yours do? lol! :(Dana W. Marnichehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18404707825803497653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-1616666642540331032017-06-20T21:42:00.093-04:002017-06-20T21:42:00.093-04:00Hi Ali - only the dna of the kudhar Arabs of the ...<br /><br />Hi Ali - only the dna of the kudhar Arabs of the Arabs count today. Notice how these Arabs of the Tihama still sings like a flamenco singer in Spain.<br />: ) <br /><br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuTOErRFz9Y<br /><br />Notice that Ibn Duraid went to raid the tribe of Abs bin Ghutayf or Ghatafan - a tribe closely related to the lava-colored Sulaym ibn Mansur of Jahiz and Ibn Athir, brethren to Hawazin bin Mansur of North Arabia tribes comprised of Beni Amir bin Sa'sa'a and the Abyssinian-colored Ka'b, Uqayl, Khasafam Muntafiq (Qays Ailan). Ibn Duraid asked his companion what he saw .who said "I see black-skinned men shaking their spears and digging in the earth with their feet." Duraid said "That is the tribe of Abs'" From the 12th century work of Ibn Rabbih in Al Iqd el Farid.<br /><br />Look and be amazed at how the Afro-Arabians have kept the culture of their black skinned ancestors for thousands of years, Ali. Maybe you are not one of them? : )<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3sscCJu168&feature=share<br /><br />The men of the Arabs are still stamping their feet in the dirt, Ali. There is no escape, and the early medieval authors often carefully wrote what passed down to them. There is no escape. ; )Dana W. Marnichehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18404707825803497653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-61473165178311504282017-06-20T19:39:35.000-04:002017-06-20T19:39:35.000-04:00Hi Dana,
The last two post for you, mentioned my h...Hi Dana,<br />The last two post for you, mentioned my haplogroup dna is same Abs bin Ghatafan, which one Jz644 or Jby74 ?<br /><br />About Khazraj tribe , i forget to said that most of Aseer tribes are from Khazraj.<br /><br />Only 35% of Dawaser are Azd tribe (Alzayed clan) <br /><br />You can hear the trumpet instead of shofar in the past (Ghamid & Zahran) https://youtu.be/RWdmjCKQVFI <br /><br />Thank you<br />Ali MosesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-39102768718972656272017-06-20T00:19:41.939-04:002017-06-20T00:19:41.939-04:00The Himyar/Sabaeans were and are black people. Tho...The Himyar/Sabaeans were and are black people. Those living people who speak the ancient Himyarite-related dialects in southern and eastern Arabia are still near black in color, and look like Somali and Abyssinians. Remember? Why is that, Ali?! <br /><br />They are in reality the first people to be called Zanj a word meaning "rust colored" in Persian. Such people are the last of the true Qahtan or Yarab in Arabia and all pure Arabs resemble them. : ) The haplotypes you mention are mainly of Syrian origin and thus likely not the haplotypes of the original Khudar or pure Arabs of Arabia of one, two and three thousand years ago. As well, the Amalek, A'ad, Umaymah (Emim), Akk (Og/Anakim), Wabar (Dawasir) and other populations that were said to be giants and extinct by the fairskinned non-Arabs who are your ancestors are representeed only by the blacks in the Dawasir land. The ancestors of the black Azd giants Aus and Khazraj (ansar) WHICH ARE NO LONGER IN HIJAZ OBVIOUSLY, etc. are represented by in Arabia ONLY by the black giants among the Dawasir today that is why they have names like Nifal (Nephilim), Al Ufaysan (Eliphaz ancestor of Amalek). They are only represented by the tall black and near black populations of Wadi Dawasir (Yamamah), Hadramaut and most of them left for Africa and Syria in very ancient times. Thus the ancient Shem are living peoples Ali. That is the beauty of it all. And people like yourself and Europeans have tried to bury that history. <br /><br />But I am here to say this era usurpation is now out in the open. If you have Arab blood be glad, but there will never be a genetic proof that Arabs like the Dawasir, Canaanites, Israelites, ancient Egyptians or Kemitiu rather, or Berbers were fair-skinned Eurasiatic peoples unless history is turned on its head. If you or the mixed people of Arabia don't have some African genes or the genes of the Ubaid man of anthroopologists then you are likely not Arab by blood.:)<br /><br />Again, I am sorry that you and many of your people (like the Europeans) don't like the fact that the ancient populations of Arabia and in fact other parts of the Near East were related to black Africans, but that is not the problem of the Africans, and it is not going to change history. BTW - the ancient Arabs worshipped blackness and were proud of their own. That is why why al Fadl ibn Abbas said "I am the black skinned one, one of the nobles" "pure of race"(Stetkevych, Jaroslav, Muhammad and the Golden Bough p. 73). That is why Miskeen said I am khudar " the color of the Arabs". That is why the phrase akhdar al-jildah was used for PURE Arabs as Stetkevych says. And that is why the Byzantines portrayed the early Umayyads the color of Nubians and east Africans, and why Ibn Hawkal said Arabs were the complexion of the Beja. <br /><br />They were not mixed with the white i.e. "red" concubines or slaves yet: ) See a painting of the Umayyads by the Byzantines I recently placed in my blog AfroArabia 101. There is no escape. :(Dana W. Marnichehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18404707825803497653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-8786360684950478162017-06-20T00:17:33.686-04:002017-06-20T00:17:33.686-04:00Hey Ali - as I have mentioned to you most people i...Hey Ali - as I have mentioned to you most people in Arabia are a composite mixture of many people. But the original tribe of Benjamin, Dan or Bilha/Bahila were related to the Azd and Quda'a people - two populations whom the ancients specifically described as black or Jadeed al- udmah and khudar. The Jews were described in Hijaz as "more black than any other color" 400 years ago and the Israelites in Egypt 1000 years ago were described as indistinguishable from the Nubians, Abyssinians and Copts in appearance unlike their Greek Christian enemies. Sorry the Europeans didn't like to mention all of this stuff together in their books, like I do. ; )<br /> No Arab "got dark skin color" because they were already tar black and near to black Khudar or "akhdar" which as YOU KNOW signifies only the dark skinned and near black person. <br /> I am not sure why you keeep bringing up "Negroes" which is just the name Europeans use for slaves from Africa. Many of the pure Arab populations of Arabia were apparently blacker than many "Negroes" later brought into ARabia and some are described as having features stereotypically said to be only found among NEGRO Africans, like red eyes, broad noses, flat noses, braids, big butts, large sexual organs and the ability to run fast (which is what the early Persians said of the Tayyi -their general name for the Arab : ). I have this information with the sources on my blog. Have you not read it!? There were no fair skinned ARABS 1000 years ago except for those that descended from slaves, i.e. Syrians, Persians and Rum (Greco-Romans) as al Dhahabi stated. That is why Ibn Rabbih in his Al Iqd al Farid the Precious Necklace said the qadi of the Maddhij said seeing a fair skinned Arab was '"inconceivable" and "as rare as the 7th wonder of the world". <br /> The Beni Yamin (Benjamin) or Yam were according to Arab tradition related to the Hamdan who were once a Sabaean tribe. Even Wikipedia says this - which means that they were looking like "Ethiopians" which means black people in Greek, i.e. Qarra, Shahara, Habbaniyya and Hadramaut. Remember Yemen was one of the blacker zones of the Sudan even 600 years ago and such people are still looking like Somalis and Ethiopians. WHy is that Ali?! <br /><br /> The Harasis Beni Kathir (Keturah) were also from Hamdan and I have a photo of them on this page. http://afroasiatics.blogspot.com/2016/01/fear-of-blackness-series-part-i-guide.html They don't look like the people you are posting and I can guarantee you their genotypes are not the same as the people you posted.; ) <br /><br /> Dana W. Marnichehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18404707825803497653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-90479376590787407292017-06-19T18:26:09.351-04:002017-06-19T18:26:09.351-04:00Hi Dana,
About bani Israel who's in south wes...Hi Dana, <br />About bani Israel who's in south west Arab peninsula until 4 months ago most of them Jews, they're clans of Benjamin / Dan / Joseph , and i knew many information about them but i can't say it in public . <br />Mean while if some of them got dark skin color, it's not mean that they're Ethiobian ,maybe there mothers African, south Arabia was kingdoms 1000's years ago including parts of east Africa and the red sea in the south is short distance people can travel from east to west in few hours for trading / work .<br />That why many Negros in Yemen/Hejaz pic.twitter.com/nljIYnF9fs<br /><br />Thank you<br />Ali MosesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-87566703285593509182017-06-16T19:39:35.665-04:002017-06-16T19:39:35.665-04:00Hey Ali - sorry I'm very busy lately. Where...Hey Ali - sorry I'm very busy lately. Where'd you learn that slang English.lol!<br /><br /> The Banu Israel are known by their ancient clan names and some of the pure ones are still living in Hadramaut from the tribe of Dan (Habbaniyya), but most of the Israelites have long turned Muslim. Except as you well know from my blog the habbaniyya who come from Bahila (Bilha) according to Arab texts look more like Ethiopians i.e that is to say like Semites.As you have seen in this blog all of the tribes of Israel are still known under their ancient names and were never lost. The jewish people of Yemen are too mixed with Persians and other people to be considered pure semites. Remember Wah ibn Munabbih the Jewish Yemenite for example who was half Persian and that's his people you are showing. <br /><br />Remember Amr Musaikiyya (Moses) and Zarifa and their followers were in the Yemen in Marib (Meribah) and are described as black by later Middle Eastern people. Benjamin for example was just another name for Banu Yam, and Yafi bin Qesed or Yahar who live in Hadramaut and Africa even today. In this blog all of the tribes of Yasir'el have been identified as ancient Arabs each of whom whom were at one time described as black 'akhdar", "samar", "al-udmah" and even "jadeed al udmah" by various writers. Kamal Salibi's book would be a big help to you. ; ) <br /><br />The Issachar i.e., Banu Yashkur or Al Ushaykir were originally from the Azd while the black as lava Sulaym were from Manasseh (Mansur) and their brethren Ferain bin Baliy (Ephrain/Ephraim). Al-Hamdulillah thanks be to GOD all of the true tribes of Israel and of Nu have been permitted exposure in this time. : ) <br /><br />If you have information showing otherwise feel free to post it, but you'll have to have more proof than a modern video. Remember the Arabs - a people with "kinky hair" and a Samar, Udmah and Akhdarcomplexion resembling the Beja and Ethiopians according to Ibn Hawqal, Ibn Mansur and others and they thus much different genetically, culturally and physically than the Syrians, Turks and Persians, Slavs and Rum or fair skinned people had nothing to do with the Arabs. The latter in fact despised the complexion of "red" or ahmar people. Arabia has been settled by many people in the last 1000 years. But' don't hate, just celebrate. : )<br /><br />There are British people that think they are descendants of Israelites too, just as descendants of the converted peoples of ancient Rome and Turkey now living in Syria or the modern Israel do. ; ) <br /><br />BTW - I found out the Arab genes of your tribe derive from Abs bin Ghatafan and Zahran of the Azd. Your tribe lives near and in the villages founded by these two once black populations of the ancient Asir. See Near East/South Asia Report by Fu'ad Hamza published 1983.<br /><br /> I don't know where the white i.e. "ahmar" genes of your tribe come from. Perhaps Syria, but I'm sure you will be able to confirm that soon. PeaceDana W. Marnichehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18404707825803497653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-57767227480033356302017-06-16T18:38:45.954-04:002017-06-16T18:38:45.954-04:00Hi Dana,
Are you good ?
Native Bani Israel in Ye...Hi Dana,<br />Are you good ? <br /><br />Native Bani Israel in Yemen https://youtu.be/YKRL9EWsp18<br /><br />thank you<br />Ali MosesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-46551279651530805932017-06-02T17:16:13.188-04:002017-06-02T17:16:13.188-04:00Remember Ibn Hawkal said that the Arab color was m...Remember Ibn Hawkal said that the Arab color was much like the Beja of the Horn of AFrica and Sudan. Please note countless lineages of the Arabs have become mixed with non-Arab peoples. The tribe that claims descent from the very black and huge Ubada bin Samit of the Khazraj for example is completely fair in color. So don't worry about not being a pure Arab tribe. There are only a few of those left - probably only in Hadramaut or Sudan somewhere. :)Dana W. Marnichehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18404707825803497653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-12313491892818938292017-06-02T16:41:08.000-04:002017-06-02T16:41:08.000-04:00Hey Ali - I was going to send you a link that was ...Hey Ali - I was going to send you a link that was on Wikipedia which is where I first saw the book, unfortunately it looks like they took it off. I think we discussed your haplotypes before. I don't know what the Azd genotype of 1,000 years ago was. I just know how the different groups of al-Azd were described back then, such as the Khazraj, Ghassan, Khaza'a, Daus etc, and that the unmodified Dawasir (Dawsariyya) of al- Yamamah in Central Arabia who are described by colonialists are still black and huge like they are in medieval times have many tribal names of the original Azd people. The appearance and genes of the tribes of Azd like most tribes of the Arabian peninsula has been modified due to the large numbers of immigrants, conquerors and slaves that have been brought there that have been intermixing with them. The semitic language is an afroasiatic one and the original Afro-asiatics came from northeast Africa so they didn't look like dark Syrians. : )<br /><br />Dana W. Marnichehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18404707825803497653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-42866832004256394362017-06-01T11:03:47.839-04:002017-06-01T11:03:47.839-04:00Hi Dana,
I couldn't find Constructing Al-azd ...Hi Dana, <br />I couldn't find Constructing Al-azd book, out of stock all international libraries .<br />All Arab history books like Ibn khaldon and others are fake.<br />By the way , my dna final result is Jby74 branch of ( JZ644 Alzd tribes ) <br />thank you<br />Ali MosesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-9131112058929905092017-05-06T11:15:24.933-04:002017-05-06T11:15:24.933-04:00I am not sure why you couldn't find Constructi...I am not sure why you couldn't find Constructing Al Azd, Ali, but at least you can read some of it on google books. <br /><br />https://books.google.com/books/about/Constructing_Al_Azd.html?id=vIYKAQAAMAAJDana W. Marnichehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18404707825803497653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-60518861191837049832017-05-06T11:11:58.216-04:002017-05-06T11:11:58.216-04:00Hi again Ali - well, I am not sure about your heri...Hi again Ali - well, I am not sure about your heritage since this blogspot is not about people that are the result of centuries of miscegenation, but i am sure you have nothing to be ashamed about. <br /><br /> As you might have seen, this blogspot is about the original and unmodified African Arabia and African Berbers, i.e. Afroasiatics that brought the Mother Goddess civilization to the Near East, Anatolia and elsewhere, as evident from the rock art and skeletons found throughout Arabia and North Africa and the Mediterranean that predate and differ from those of present populations. Arabia in ancient times was the name for the area in Africa on the eastern side of the Nile and related people in Arabia and other places, which is why it was considered a land of Kush and Sudan. If you are from those people then be happy. If not, this blogspot is not going to help you much. : ) <br /><br />BTW - All people who are dark got it from "the hot sun", not just bedouin. : (<br /><br />If you "like dark-skinned women" then you will love Kali, Goddess of Time - the Black ONE, who destroys all lies and enemies of the Truth - as she has through this blog. I personally love her too.: ) Dana W. Marnichehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18404707825803497653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-74330842666719858452017-05-06T00:59:56.579-04:002017-05-06T00:59:56.579-04:00HI Dana
how are you, i'm fine thank you.
If o...HI Dana<br />how are you, i'm fine thank you.<br /><br />If our history and heritage typeface for thousands of years, that's mean all writers for hundred of years are copying unreal facts.<br /><br />These some books, i couldn't find them ;<br />constructing alazd: Tribal Identity and Society in the Early Islamic Centuries<br />Byzantium and the Arabs in the fourth century <br /><br />I found and bought this book from Amazon and waiting for delivery :<br />ARA-KITB SHAR SHAWHID AL-TALKH28 , by Abd Al-Ram Ibn Abd Al-Ramn 1462 , Arabi<br /><br />We're not black, but some beduins became dark skin of the hot sun in Arabian Peninsula in August the temperature around 55 C , but i like dark skin women.<br /><br />good luck<br /><br />Ali Moses<br />Thuratvalley@gmail.com <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-79607516429750871492017-05-04T20:42:43.144-04:002017-05-04T20:42:43.144-04:00BTW - since you believe in the Syrian notion that ...BTW - since you believe in the Syrian notion that blacks descend from Ham bin Noah, we might well explain what that means, since you probably don't know it.<br /><br />Masudi of Baghdad for example said in the 10th century - “The Nabataeans founded the city of Babylon and were those descendants of Ham who settled in the same province under the leadership of Nimrod, the son of Cush, who was the son of Hamm…This took place at the time when Nimrod received the governship of Babylonia as the delegate of Dzhahhak.” <br /><br />After mentioning Nabit b. Canaan b. Kush b. Ham, Al-Dimashqi goes on to say the following concerning the Nabataeans. <br /><br />“They had their homes in Babylonia, and their first king was Nimrod I, that is, the Great. They were known as Kaldan (Chaldeans), Kasdan (Kasdites), Janban, Jaramiqa, Kutharun, and Kan'anun; these were Nabataeans who constructed buildings, founded cities, dug canals, planted trees,...They were all Sabeans who worshiped stars and idols” (Zakeri, Mohsen, Sassanid Soldiers in Early Muslim Society, 1995, p. 148).<br /><br />Not surprisingly al-Dimashqi 13th century also claimed Nabit signifies black "Among the children of Canaan are the Nabit, Nabit signifies 'black'..." <br /><br /><br />The Chaldeans, Nabataeans, Babylonians, Kasdim, the north Arabian Kedarites or Ismailites and Canaanites from whom came the Israelites Amorites and all other semitic people were all considered originated from the black Sabaean people once dwelling in Aram in Hadramaut, al Yamamah who came from African-Arabians covering the Nejd, the entirety of the Asir, Tihama and Hijaz. That was the belief of the medieval Arabic writers from around the world. Like it or not! <br /><br />Thus, the sons of Ham were the builders and bringers of civilization to the Near East where they ruled for a thousand years according to the early Arabic writers from Syria and Baghdad so if that is what you are talking about when you say the tradition is that blacks were the sons of Ham ben Noah than all I can say is الحمد لله Al-Hamdulillah praise be to God! Let the light of Truth shine once more. <br />And, I will be posting the genetic evidence of who these BLACKS were soon.; ) <br />Dana W. Marnichehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18404707825803497653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-28330559758320518072017-05-04T19:00:26.500-04:002017-05-04T19:00:26.500-04:00Sorry I mispelled miscegenation - which means inte...Sorry I mispelled miscegenation - which means interbreeding of different populations.: )Dana W. Marnichehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18404707825803497653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-7713947498618682842017-05-04T18:54:38.704-04:002017-05-04T18:54:38.704-04:00Hey Ali - kaiyful hal. : ) Hope you are well. Actu...Hey Ali - kaiyful hal. : ) Hope you are well. Actually I'm not sure why you are mentioning Constantine now as I don't use him to describe what happened to the original Afro-Asiatic peoples. <br /> I agree that the Torah/Bible and hadiths of the Prophet Mohammed have much misinterpretation in them largely because they were recomposed by people who had little to do with the original people that wrote the Torah. Many or most hadiths about early Arabia were writtten by Persians and Syrians. However, it is also the Persians and Syrians that talk comment on the appearance of the original Arabs. The truth is the Yemen doesn't have a myth about Ham being a brother of Shem That came later in stories from Syria and Persia. What they say is that people like the Himyarites and Sabeans were the ancestors of those whom the Torah calls Ham Shem and Japhet. There isn't anybody else mentioned in the Genesis tables. Nu or Nuah is just an African deity and the folk of Noah mentioned by Bukhari were just some black Yemenites that worshipped a variety of Gods. : ) <br /> DNA screening of todays "Arabs" has very little to do with the ancient populations of Arabia. The population of much of Arabia like that of northern Egypt and Northern Africa is not the same as it was 600 years ago. We know that because of the descriptions of all the Arab tribes and the fact that the Yemen and Nejd and Hijaz were all occupied by Sudanic looking populations. Ibn Khaldun is not the only one that described the regions of Arabia. <br /> Remember we have countless Syrian writers, Chinese manuscripts and Persian letters that tell us what the Arabs looked like aside from Arab dictionaries themselves that all say the same thing. Even Medina a little over 100 years ago is described inhabited mostly by blacks and yet today there are few there. What happened to them? There is something called misceenation that has occurred. This has happened through slavery and conquest. Remember the Syrians like al-Dhahabi said anyone in Arabia who had fair-skin was assumed to be descended from a slave.;)<br /> So geneticists should not be taking samples from people who obviously do not represent pure Arab people and then claim a haplotype to be Arab. They tried that with the North Africans but it just backfired, in other words they tried to prove the ancient Berbers were originally palaeolithic Eurasians. <br /><br /> The genotype of old Arabians was probably closest to modern north Sudanese, Beja and Nubians who fit the description of ancient Arabs and are largely derived from them. But even they like the people of the Horn show a strong admixture with people from places like Levant, Greece and possibly Armenia. Remember the name Arabia in the period of ancient Greek historians referred to everything east of the Nile, and the people in the Arabian peninsula in that period were related to them, and not to Turks, Syrians and Persians and the J haplotype who have swamped the peninsula as merchants, immigrants and conquerors. ; ) <br /><br />Muhammed Sadiq Bey,a man of Turkish ancestry born in Egypt mentioned in 1861 the inhabitants Medina in 1861. He “described Madinah and its inhabitants… The people of Madinah were of ‘a dark, almost black complexion,’ although some were ‘light-skinned, almost white.’” See “Pioneer Photographer of the Holy Cities” by John De St. Jorre, in the magazine Saudi Aramco World, Jan Feb 1999.<br /> Now there are no almost black complexion in Medina. Are they even ARab?! That's the demographics change in just one important town in Arabia in just 150 years! Believe it! Think of what could and did happen within several centuries.Dana W. Marnichehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18404707825803497653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-415398412768785507.post-50510741143600514662017-05-04T12:31:48.659-04:002017-05-04T12:31:48.659-04:00Hi Dana,
After the fall of the Islamic Caliphate ...Hi Dana, <br />After the fall of the Islamic Caliphate in Spain has been misquoted all genealogical manuscripts and Arab heritage including Ibn Khaldun wrote.<br />When Constantine became a Christian, 306-337 a.d. he forged many scripts about middle east.<br /><br />We don't have a real history and manuscripts flowed , some jews from Alazd tribe and Istanbol,England,and Spain museums that have some real historical information prohibited.<br />The Torah and the Bible and Hadiths of the Prophet Mohamed was much misrepresentation, And sourcing people from South Mecca (Yemen) and Arabs descended from Sam Ben Noah, And blacks descended from ham Ben Noah.<br />DNA screening proved that Arabs J strain, Negroes on the E strain.<br /><br />Thank you<br />Ali MosesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com